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      Crag_Hack last edited by

      Also some minor details - I didn't run any backup jobs when the program didn't completely quit so the worker thread hadn't even been used except for being set up. The issue might be related to when the computer resumes from standby after the program was started during a prior session (I'd need more data to be sure). And the program remnant didn't show up in task manager only tasklist in the command prompt. Also the NSIS installer detected the remnant but wouldn't kill it.

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      • JKSH
        JKSH Moderators @Crag_Hack last edited by

        @JonB said in Program doesn't completely quit:

        And have you checked whether your program is actually spending time there waiting, and that's the reason it's still running sometimes?

        +1 I suggest you check this, @Crag_Hack. One way is to add QDebug messages to your app, and view them using SysInternals DebugView (you might need to add filters first to suppress messages from other processes)

        At a quick glance, your code seems to have added all the necessary things to clean up your thread properly. However, we can't rule out a race condition of some sort yet.

        @Crag_Hack said in Program doesn't completely quit:

        Also some minor details

        Actually, these are major details which could contain important clues :)

        I didn't run any backup jobs when the program didn't completely quit so the worker thread hadn't even been used except for being set up.

        OK, this suggests that the problem isn't necessarily about a stuck thread.

        The issue might be related to when the computer resumes from standby after the program was started during a prior session (I'd need more data to be sure).

        Very possible. Definitely worth investigating.

        And the program remnant didn't show up in task manager only tasklist in the command prompt.

        I presume you mean it doesn't show up in the "Applications" tab. Does it show up in the "Processes" tab?

        If I'm not mistaken, the app leaves the "Applications" tab when the last window is gone.

        Also the NSIS installer detected the remnant but wouldn't kill it.

        Ask the NSIS developers: Do they know of any situations which cause NSIS to be unable to kill a process?

        @JonB said in Program doesn't completely quit:

        If & when the OP's program returns from sys.exit(app.exec()) (he can test if it does so) into main(), doesn't that call something like _exit() in the C runtime and I thought (haven't checked) that would terminate all threads, no?

        Sort of, but the issue is "Terminate" != "Proper shutdown". I'm not sure if abrupt termination lets the thread properly deinitialize any system resources that it's using.

        Anyway, C++ Qt doesn't normally call exit(); we just let main() return naturally.

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          Crag_Hack last edited by

          @JKSH said in Program doesn't completely quit:

          However, we can't rule out a race condition of some sort yet.

          I only use signals and slots to communicate between the main GUI thread and worker thread, except for the stop function which uses an std::atomic_bool. Also all classes I use are reentrant except for QStrorageInfo but that's only used in the main thread. There might be others I'd have to look at the code but I was very careful to only use reentrant guys in the worker thread.

          I presume you mean it doesn't show up in the "Applications" tab. Does it show up in the "Processes" tab?

          If I'm not mistaken, the app leaves the "Applications" tab when the last window is gone.

          In Windows 10 the two tabs are joined together in the processes tab in two separate lists. It doesn't show up in either.

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          • JonB
            JonB @JKSH last edited by JonB

            @JKSH said in Program doesn't completely quit:

            Anyway, C++ Qt doesn't normally call exit(); we just let main() return naturally.

            My point is --- unless C++ start-up/shut-down is different from C in this respect which I doubt --- if you look at the C/C++ run-time code which calls your main() you will see that when that returns (return or just coming to the end of main()) into the runtime invoking code that code will call _exit(). Doesn't matter whether your code actually calls exit() or not, both ways end up calling _exit().

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            • JKSH
              JKSH Moderators @Crag_Hack last edited by

              @Crag_Hack said in Program doesn't completely quit:

              I only use signals and slots to communicate between the main GUI thread and worker thread, except for the stop function which uses an std::atomic_bool. Also all classes I use are reentrant except for QStrorageInfo but that's only used in the main thread. There might be others I'd have to look at the code but I was very careful to only use reentrant guys in the worker thread.

              In Windows 10 the two tabs are joined together in the processes tab in two separate lists. It doesn't show up in either.

              I see. I'm out of ideas at this point, sorry.

              All the best with your hunt!

              It might be worth subscribing to the Interest mailing list and asking there -- Qt engineers are active on that list, and they might have further insight into the internals of your app.

              @JonB said in Program doesn't completely quit:

              My point is --- unless C++ start-up/shut-down is different from C in this respect which I doubt --- if you look at the C/C++ run-time code which calls your main() you will see that when that returns (return or just coming to the end of main()) into the runtime invoking code that code will call _exit(). Doesn't matter whether your code actually calls exit() or not, both ways end up calling _exit().

              You're right, the C++ runtime behaves similarly to the C runtime.

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              • SGaist
                SGaist Lifetime Qt Champion last edited by

                Hi,

                What does your worker object do ?
                Are you sure it's stopping its work ?
                Any system call in it ?

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                  Crag_Hack last edited by

                  @SGaist said in Program doesn't completely quit:

                  Hi,

                  What does your worker object do ?

                  File copy logic for file replicator based backup.

                  Are you sure it's stopping its work ?

                  I hadn't even run any backup job work when this error occurred.

                  Any system call in it ?

                  What do you mean by system call?

                  Thanks.

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                  • SGaist
                    SGaist Lifetime Qt Champion last edited by

                    By "System call" I meant native low level function.

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                      Crag_Hack last edited by

                      I've used a small spectrum of win API functions. Some requiring COM.

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                      • SGaist
                        SGaist Lifetime Qt Champion last edited by

                        Did you check whether some of them needed to free some resource to properly stop ?

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                          Crag_Hack last edited by

                          I read the documentation thoroughly for all the functions. Weird thing is the intermittent nature of what's occurring and also that is happens after not having done any worker object work.

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                          • kshegunov
                            kshegunov Moderators @Crag_Hack last edited by kshegunov

                            Get a stack trace from those processes that hang and post it here. (e.g. as described here)
                            That's the best you can do to trace it, at least that is if it doesn't already hang in the debugger ...

                            PS.
                            Show us (parts) of your Worker class, as I see trouble brewing here.

                            This:

                            worker->stop(); //sets boolean cancel to true to let worker finish its work
                            

                            and this

                            workerThread->quit();
                            

                            very rarely go hand in hand.

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                              Crag_Hack last edited by

                              Since JKSH said he's out of ideas I opened another thread over at MSDN. See here. We ran process explorer and it showed the process as suspended. Also when trying to kill in process explorer we get access denied. Here is the threads info (no stack trace available). Also the process is not ReplicatorNew.exe it's Buddha Backup x64.exe (I was hesitant to get my name out there but concluded it doesn't' really matter).

                              0_1532290551431_stacktrace.png

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                                Crag_Hack last edited by Crag_Hack

                                Here's the requested code with the previous code as well. Edited for brevity.

                                void ReplicatorMainScreen::closeEvent(QCloseEvent *event)
                                {
                                    emit stopWork();
                                    event->accept();
                                }
                                
                                void ReplicatorMainScreen::setupBackend(Replicator *rep)
                                {
                                    connect(ui->backupSelectedButton,SIGNAL(clicked(bool)),rep,SLOT(selectedBackup()));
                                    connect(this,SIGNAL(stopWork()),rep,SLOT(stopWork()));
                                    connect(ui->cancelButton,SIGNAL(clicked(bool)),rep,SLOT(cancelBackup()));
                                }
                                
                                void Replicator::cancelBackup()
                                {
                                    if (isBusy)
                                        worker->stop();
                                }
                                
                                void Replicator::stopWork()
                                {
                                    quitting = true;
                                    if (isBusy)
                                        worker->stop(); //sets boolean cancel to true to let worker finish its work
                                }
                                
                                void Worker::stop() { cancel = true; } // cancel is std::atomic_bool
                                
                                void Replicator::selectedBackup()
                                {
                                    isBusy = true;
                                    emit backup(jobList,simpleJobs);
                                }
                                
                                void Worker::backup(QList<BackupJob> passJobs, QList<BackupJob> passSimpleJobs)
                                {
                                    jobs = passJobs;
                                    simpleJobs = passSimpleJobs;
                                    startJobScans(); //these check for cancel condition and abort if true
                                    startJobBackups(); // this too
                                    emit backupFinished(JobType::Normal, cancel, errorsFound);
                                }
                                
                                void Replicator::backupDone()
                                {
                                    isBusy = false;
                                }
                                
                                Replicator::~Replicator()
                                {
                                    workerThread->quit();
                                    workerThread->wait();
                                }
                                
                                Replicator::Replicator(QWidget *parent) :
                                    QWidget(parent)
                                {
                                    workerThread = new QThread(this);
                                    workerThread->start();
                                    worker = new Worker;
                                    worker->moveToThread(workerThread);
                                    mainScreen = new ReplicatorMainScreen;
                                    setupWorker();
                                    mainScreen->setupBackend(this);
                                }
                                
                                void Replicator::setupWorker()
                                {
                                    connect(this, SIGNAL(backup(QList<BackupJob>,QList<BackupJob>)), worker, SLOT(backup(QList<BackupJob>,QList<BackupJob>)));
                                    connect(worker, SIGNAL(backupFinished(JobType,bool,bool)), this, SLOT(backupDone(JobType,bool,bool)));
                                    connect(workerThread, SIGNAL(finished()), worker, SLOT(deleteLater()));
                                }
                                
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                                • kshegunov
                                  kshegunov Moderators @Crag_Hack last edited by

                                  @Crag_Hack said in Program doesn't completely quit:

                                  Here is the threads info (no stack trace available).

                                  Attach the debugger and do an interrupt after that (in the debug menu). Work with a debug build so you get unoptimized code and you can trace the stack.

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                                    Crag_Hack last edited by

                                    When attaching with Visual Studio I get "Unable to attach to the process. Catastrophic failure." When using Qt Creator I get:

                                    0_1532293994392_qc.png

                                    The process as it is hung now was run as an exe outside of both IDEs. Not sure if that's relevant.

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                                    • kshegunov
                                      kshegunov Moderators @Crag_Hack last edited by

                                      Did you stop all the antivirus programs? Antivirus software often interferes with debugging and some of it even run services on top of custom drivers that hook all over the OS in all kinds of nasty ways. Disable automatic antivirus, disable its services reboot and reproduce, then try to attach the debugger.

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                                        Crag_Hack last edited by

                                        Update - I ran the program ~196 times total, evenly distributed between running a backup and not running a backup and also between running the original exe, running with my copy protection wrapper, and running with the NSIS installer. It didn't exhibit the erratic behavior not even once. One detail though is I am using QtSingleApplication and also QtLockedFile. I also found this page which attributes similar behavior to buggy drivers not handling IO well. Are QtSingleApplication and QtLockedFile mature enough to be bug free? I show having used version 2.6 according to readme.txt in my local repository, which is the same version as on github according to readme.txt.

                                        Also @kshegunov the worker->stop() just sets the boolean cancel to true so the worker object in the worker thread can read the boolean and halt it's operations, return to the event loop, and in the case that workerThread->quit() is called the event loop picks up the event and quits. Should be safe right?

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                                        • JKSH
                                          JKSH Moderators @Crag_Hack last edited by

                                          @Crag_Hack said in Program doesn't completely quit:

                                          Are QtSingleApplication and QtLockedFile mature enough to be bug free? I show having used version 2.6 according to readme.txt in my local repository, which is the same version as on github according to readme.txt.

                                          I don't know about their maturity, but those classes have not been maintained for many years.

                                          Qt 5 has a new class called QLockFile (http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qlockfile.html ) -- its API is not a drop-in replacement for QtLockFile, however. There is no modern equivalent for QtSingleApplication.

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