Win 10.000 EUR at the "Qtest Mobile App Port"



  • From the announcement of this competition: "As developers of applications using Qt, you already know how great it is to work with - but how about on mobile platforms, such as Symbian and MeeGo? How would you like to take that step you have been wanting to take, but not been able to justify: Take your application from the desktop and bring it into the hand-held world via the Ovi store.
    Let this contest be the justification, with the possibility of a new phone or even 10,000 euros waiting at the end."

    So, what are you waiting for? :D More details can be found at the original news post: http://qt-apps.org/news/?id=340

    A clarification: This competition is also open to new applications - you do not have to port an existing application :)



  • great news. Every winner gets a free N900 phone.



  • Yup! And there's even two competitions there - if you hand in early you get entered into a separate competition for another set of N900s :) It really is a nice little competition :) (i'm only involved in it so far that i'm posting this stuff and such - it's no secret that i work for Frank and wrote the announcement, but that's about as far as my personal involvement goes here, i just think it's a really nice competition ;) )



  • I am not clear on how we can have the same app submitted at both OVI and Qt-Apps.org or MeeGo-Central.org. As ovi restricts user from submitting the application else where if the account makes use of free signing.



  • [quote author="leinir" date="1292931469"]Yup! And there's even two competitions there - if you hand in early you get entered into a separate competition for another set of N900s :) It really is a nice little competition :) (i'm only involved in it so far that i'm posting this stuff and such - it's no secret that i work for Frank and wrote the announcement, but that's about as far as my personal involvement goes here, i just think it's a really nice competition ;) )[/quote]

    Also who is organizing the competition. The "post":http://qt-apps.org/news/index.php/Win+10.000,-+EUR+at+the+"Qtest+Mobile+App+Port"?id=340&name=Win+10.000,-+EUR+at+the+"Qtest+Mobile+App+Port" is not much detailed and does not describe the rules very well.



  • The port is, in essence, a new application - as such, even though the original is available on e.g. Qt-Apps.org the application submitted to Ovi is still only available there. It's a slight technicality, but an important distinction. Didn't really want to pollute the announcement with too much technical information like that, but sure, it's a valid concern - i hope this clears that doubt up for you :)

    The organisers are openDesktop.org (by way of Frank Karlitschek) and the QtFD community office (by way of Knut Yrvin). You're right, that should have likely been in there - thanks for the feedback :)

    P.S.: It's Ovi, not OVI (it's a Finnish word meaning "door", not an abbreviation ;) )



  • Silly me, I thought we have competition on porting unit test framework application to mobile devices. Reading title out loud helped.



  • [quote author="leinir" date="1292932663"]The port is, in essence, a new application - as such, even though the original is available on e.g. Qt-Apps.org the application submitted to Ovi is still only available there. It's a slight technicality, but an important distinction. Didn't really want to pollute the announcement with too much technical information like that, but sure, it's a valid concern - i hope this clears that doubt up for you :)

    The organisers are openDesktop.org (by way of Frank Karlitschek) and the QtFD community office (by way of Knut Yrvin). You're right, that should have likely been in there - thanks for the feedback :)

    P.S.: It's Ovi, not OVI (it's a Finnish word meaning "door", not an abbreviation ;) )[/quote]

    I didn't get it. Do you mean that applications already submitted at Qt-Apps.org can only be ported and submitted in Ovi for this competition. Or is it that you can also write a new app in Qt and submit.

    Thank you I didn't know that Ovi is a Finnish word for door.



  • [quote author="QtK" date="1292936422"]
    I didn't get it. Do you mean that applications already submitted at Qt-Apps.org can only be ported and submitted in Ovi for this competition. Or is it that you can also write a new app in Qt and submit.
    [/quote]

    Well, the competition is about porting applications, so you need to have an application to port. However, when porting something from the desktop to a mobile platform, it is not just a recompilation. Unless your application is trivial, you will almost certainly have to build a new user interface for it, which in essence would make it a new application. Llook at the difference between the various applications and their "Touch" equivalent, that you find in many app stores around the place - vastly different, touch optimized UIs for preexisting applications - this is the type of port we're looking for.

    [quote author="QtK" date="1292936422"]
    Thank you I didn't know that Ovi is a Finnish word for door.
    [/quote]

    You're welcome :)



  • [quote author="koshui" date="1292936183"]Silly me, I thought we have competition on porting unit test framework application to mobile devices. Reading title out loud helped.[/quote]

    Tehee, yeah, i know - the contest name was something that i must confess to have come up with... it ended up being left in, because it's sort of... Quirky and silly, and just catchy enough to well, make you actually do what you just did ;)



  • I don't have a Qt desktop app with me. So probably cant participate in the competition. :(



  • Aw, that is indeed sad, QtK... i'm sure there will be other competitions for building new applications, though :)



  • Maybe I can go and make Jambi available for n900, to be eligible to compete in this competition? That’s something that has been pondered over some time so far. Other phones are much harder, since Jambi relies on Java 1.5, and in current form uses quite a bit memory...

    It is library and not a desktop application, though :)



  • [quote author="Smar" date="1292949068"]Maybe I can go and make Jambi available for n900, to be eligible to compete in this competition? That’s something that has been pondered over some time so far. Other phones are much harder, since Jambi relies on Java 1.5, and in current form uses quite a bit memory...

    It is library and not a desktop application, though :)[/quote]

    I think it need to be an application utility or game. Something that should be accepted by Ovi store.



  • I have an application on Desktop which it can be ported, but for that particular application I wrote a special mobile version so I don't think this can work and it is a task tracker application which I don't know if it can be acceptable... Maybe it is worth porting, what do you think?



  • [quote author="Milot Shala" date="1292976016"]I have an application on Desktop which it can be ported, but for that particular application I wrote a special mobile version so I don't think this can work and it is a task tracker application which I don't know if it can be acceptable... Maybe it is worth porting, what do you think?[/quote]

    Yes, I think it would be a good idea to port it.



  • Hey, QtK and others with the same problem: i was just told by the organisers that the competition is, indeed, open to new applications as well! So, fire up your Qt Creator and get that nice mobile app you had in mind for ages built :) i've updated the root post with this information as well, just to be sure ;)



  • Hmmm - the timing of this contest is perhaps a bit off! My guess is that porting desktop apps to mobile will mostly suffer from poor performance, so replacing the UI elements with QML would be the way to go. But alas QML is perhaps not quite there yet either... . Rinse and repeat a couple of months later?



  • [quote author="leinir" date="1293058129"]Hey, QtK and others with the same problem: i was just told by the organisers that the competition is, indeed, open to new applications as well! So, fire up your Qt Creator and get that nice mobile app you had in mind for ages built :) i've updated the root post with this information as well, just to be sure ;)[/quote]

    Yes, I noticed that change in the blog. I was wondering if I missed reading it yesterday. But now its clear.



  • [quote author="QuixoticQ" date="1293083787"]Hmmm - the timing of this contest is perhaps a bit off! My guess is that porting desktop apps to mobile will mostly suffer from poor performance, so replacing the UI elements with QML would be the way to go. But alas QML is perhaps not quite there yet either... . Rinse and repeat a couple of months later?[/quote]

    Yes, agree. As of now Ovi store apps are limited to Qt 4.6.3



  • Anybody start porting? I think if somebody will do it, he write link here, and we can bit help. :)



  • [quote author="leinir" date="1292927925"]From the announcement of this competition: "As developers of applications using Qt, you already know how great it is to work with - but how about on mobile platforms, such as Symbian and MeeGo? How would you like to take that step you have been wanting to take, but not been able to justify: Take your application from the desktop and bring it into the hand-held world via the Ovi store.
    Let this contest be the justification, with the possibility of a new phone or even 10,000 euros waiting at the end."

    So, what are you waiting for? :D More details can be found at the original news post: http://qt-apps.org/news/?id=340

    A clarification: This competition is also open to new applications - you do not have to port an existing application :)[/quote]

    If we port those Qt application which has participated in previous competition held this year, will that also qualify??



  • [quote author="Immii" date="1293241378"]
    [quote author="leinir" date="1292927925"]From the announcement of this competition: "As developers of applications using Qt, you already know how great it is to work with - but how about on mobile platforms, such as Symbian and MeeGo? How would you like to take that step you have been wanting to take, but not been able to justify: Take your application from the desktop and bring it into the hand-held world via the Ovi store.
    Let this contest be the justification, with the possibility of a new phone or even 10,000 euros waiting at the end."

    So, what are you waiting for? :D More details can be found at the original news post: http://qt-apps.org/news/?id=340

    A clarification: This competition is also open to new applications - you do not have to port an existing application :)[/quote]

    If we port those Qt application which has participated in previous competition held this year, will that also qualify??[/quote]

    I don't think that should be an issue. Which is the contest you are referring to.



  • Hi guys
    Sorry for these questions, but I have no experience on the Ovi Store. I have this "app":http://math-graphica.tk/ it's a calculator. For the early bird competiton it's enought to put it in the Qt Mobile Contest Category in the Qt-prop.org ? I'm having trouble to creat the sys file for symbian, because my app uses QtOpenGL, not yet supported. Do I have to have a Qt certification to put it in the Ovi store ? Thanks



  • [quote author="john_god" date="1293534956"]Hi guys
    Sorry for these questions, but I have no experience on the Ovi Store. I have this "app":http://math-graphica.tk/ it's a calculator. For the early bird competiton it's enought to put it in the Qt Mobile Contest Category in the Qt-prop.org ? I'm having trouble to creat the sys file for symbian, because my app uses QtOpenGL, not yet supported. Do I have to have a Qt certification to put it in the Ovi store ? Thanks[/quote]

    Its .sis file not sys. You don't require to be Qt certified person. But as of now ovi store supports only Qt 4.6.3 and not Qt 4.7. So probably you cannot submit this app to the ovi store.

    Also registering and getting a uid and certificates from ovi is taking too long these days. They are not even responding. Seems people are on vacation.



  • [quote author="QtK" date="1293535249"]
    [quote author="john_god" date="1293534956"]Hi guys
    Sorry for these questions, but I have no experience on the Ovi Store. I have this "app":http://math-graphica.tk/ it's a calculator. For the early bird competiton it's enought to put it in the Qt Mobile Contest Category in the Qt-prop.org ? I'm having trouble to creat the sys file for symbian, because my app uses QtOpenGL, not yet supported. Do I have to have a Qt certification to put it in the Ovi store ? Thanks[/quote]

    Its .sis file not sys. You don't require to be Qt certified person. But as of now ovi store supports only Qt 4.6.3 and not Qt 4.7. So probably you cannot submit this app to the ovi store.

    Also registering and getting a uid and certificates from ovi is taking too long these days. They are not even responding. Seems people are on vacation.[/quote]

    I received them during the December, I didn't have any problems, I applied on Friday and received the email on Monday.



  • By Friday, you mean 24th December. Also do you have to send any document.



  • [quote author="QtK" date="1293536854"]By Friday, you mean 24th December. Also do you have to send any document.[/quote]

    Okay I got a miscalculation of the timing. I just checked the emails.

    I emailed them on 6th of December, on 7th December they sent me an NDA to sign and email back to them, on the same day few hours later I received the certificates, UIDs etc.



  • I have not yet received any emails from them. Seems they are on vacation or may be I have to wait for my turn.



  • [quote author="QtK" date="1293542775"]I have not yet received any emails from them. Seems they are on vacation or may be I have to wait for my turn.[/quote]

    Be patient my friend, your turn will come shortly :)



  • that is really motivating :)



  • Good competition ,,

    But it's equally true that one can not submit the application which is previously submitted to any other web, like www.ovi.com

    Developer have to make the new application in order to register there.



  • [quote author="Milot Shala" date="1293542962"]
    [quote author="QtK" date="1293542775"]I have not yet received any emails from them. Seems they are on vacation or may be I have to wait for my turn.[/quote]

    Be patient my friend, your turn will come shortly :)[/quote]

    But the deadline for the first phase of the competition is 31st December right. It seems the competition is not planned out well or people have gone for holidays. The original post at qt-app also has some queries, but no one has replied to any of those.

    May be leinir can help passing the message to concerned people.



  • The Early Bird part of the competition is, basically, geared to reward those for whom this is so amazing that they have decided to focus everything on it... and those who were simply bored over the holidays and hammered something out for the competition while they were off university/school/work/whatever before the new year :)



  • Yes, that is understood. But then the issue was that the ovi team was also enjoying their holidays ad hence they could not revert back on time. Also lot of things were changing - like initially it was told only porting was allowed then it was confirmed new apps too can be submitted. Then it was only open source apps can be submitted - later changed to say that proprietary apps were welcome too. And it was told submitting to ovi was required - but then ovi doesn't support Meego or Qt 4.7 - later it was told meego apps could be submitted.

    Some of these announcements came at the last moment. I am not complaining about it, but I have never seen any competition organized by Nokia not taking care of such details in the past.

    Btw any information on when the Early Bird winners will be announced.



  • [quote author="qtrahul" date="1293543983"]Good competition ,,[/quote]

    Thanks! :D

    [quote author="qtrahul" date="1293543983"]But it's equally true that one can not submit the application which is previously submitted to any other web, like www.ovi.com

    Developer have to make the new application in order to register there.[/quote]

    Well yes, previously submitted applications - as in an application which is taken verbatim from your repository and just recompiled for some mobile target can't be submitted. Or, more specifically, it's a guideline: You can do that, but it shows no effort, and thus would be... More than very unlikely to win ;)


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