An Open conversation about the future of Qt.
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And again.
Yes, some individual who has taken to posting senseless rants. It's not even proper trolling.
I feel sorry that the individual is so bitter and hope he/she tries to get on with his/her life. As pointed out previously to the bitter person in question, the ranting isn't getting him/her anywhere.
And thank you Peter for the encouragement, let's make Qt bigger together!
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Hey, smart dudes whom enjoy censoring others, do yourselves a favor, watch the last episode of the original Cosmos series by Carl Sagan, who speaks for Earth? It’s easily found on youtube.
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If you are calling deleting the same senseless, usually off-topic rant that somebody keeps on posting here "censoring", then yes, I am one of those censors. I don't mind an open discussion here, but I do mind finding the same, unfounded, yelling rant over and over again in various completely unrelated topics.
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That's too bad cause im coming back to protest as much as i want. Did you watch the episode at least?
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Please note that your freedom of speech does not imply the obligation for others to offer a platform for such speech. Also, except in very special circumstances, I think that excising that right anonymously is a rather coward act.
You call what you do protesting, I call it vandalism. To me, it is not censoring, but removing graffiti.
And no, I did not watch (or even look for) that episode. I do have other things to do with my life...
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The anonymity is my alternative to your censorship, which also could indicate that you want the hide the facts I’m posting. When it started I had posted only one thread.
Do you want my full name? I don’t have a problem in giving it. What are you going to do with it?
Do you call vandalism to distribute some pamphlets in the streets too? Are you offended that you have to click a few extra buttons every day? I’m neither damaging a thing, so I’m not a vandal nor doing graffiti. Do you see any paint around here?I call Digia contracts an abortion of epic proportions for the continuation of exploitation of human resources; do you have a problem with that too?
By the way, the cosmos is not obligated to grant your wishes either, be you a developer, or an economist, CEO, or thief or whatever.
So yeah, please go on, back to your dark cave.
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I do not want to hide the fact that you are posting. Am I removing your posts here in this topic? The posts that I (and other) remove, are those that don't belong in the conversations you're posting them in, or are double-posted.
Do I need your full name? No. But it would be nice to have at the very least a stable name, so it is clear who is having a conversation with whom. Every post from another user is confusing, IMO. On the other hand: if you put forward such serious acquisitions against Digia and it's staff, then yes, I do think that doing that with an open visor instead of as an anonymous coward.
I don't call handing out pamphlets to willing receivers in the streets vandalism, though I do expect them to clean up the pamphlets that have been disgarded in the street afterwards or I call it littering. However, that's not what you are doing. What you are doing is like interrupting random conversations on completely different topics, yelling your acquisitions against Digia, and running off again. Or, it is like sticking your pamphlets all over the works and walls of a museum because you think your message is more important than whatever is there already.
So no, I don't have a problem with you having a problem with however Digia operates its business. I do have a problem with calling everybody who choses to be involved in the Qt project because they see things in a different way all kinds of names, and suggesting they are idiots that best "go back to [their] dark cave".
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I use Qt less than year but I immediately felt its potential. But for the development is need the financial stability . Many companies currently earn (and not bad by the way) on the sales of applications through online stores.
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@PeterWinston My personal critique falls on the licensing and legality grey area, new developers don't know whats ok and whats not ok to do such as I, i am still not 100% sure what i am doing is legal, I hope it is though. If I could make one change to Qt it would be a change in the way licensing works. I would love to see students get free restricted licenses which would allow for finished software to be sold or at least a cheaper license. This isn't just good for people in my position, but also for Qt. I have been using a program called "Autodesk 3D inventor" in my school and plenty of us love the software, and for the few of us who will continue in these technological fields being taught to use the program was priceless, plus the license for a student is free for 3 years, and those who use up their license tend to go and buy their own commercial license since thats what they are used to. If students could do the same with Qt, learn to use it and make money with it then it is likely they will buy a full license with their profits and continue using Qt, not to mention the programmers will probably help Qt move on as well. I think all of us have hit a bug in Qt eventually, and maybe we could help in fixing those issues instead of some people switching SDK's. It's not very motivational to try and create new innovative software and have to worry about how we are going to afford the license. I hope it doesn't sound as if I am advocating for broke developers, and ignoring the need to pay the Qt developers because that is not my intention, it just falls had on the end user, who now has to be charged enough to maintain the dev's license.
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@RobertoDuran
Hi, you might not catch Peter Winston here easily, he hasn't been around for a while.However on the licensing, currently our thinking is that students can get the open source package for free and start learning and coding. We are thinking of some form of university/school licensing, but that will take a while to get off the ground.
We are also looking at low cost options to private/small developers. The last time we had that option it really did not sell well, so it was pulled back for now. We know there is demand for a low cost option, but we need to figure out how to provide that option so that it would get sensible sales numbers.
In general we really like it when people contribute back to Qt, be it patches or license payments. Naturally we want to make it easier for people to contribute, so different licensing options are something we continuously look for.