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  • S Svirac

    @CP71
    Yes it is, agree.

    Never the less I want to understand what is happening... I don't want to get surprised latter in the project, if same effect occurs with 5 ms timeouts.

    Also question: what is happening if called slot doesn't manage to preform task (function) within e.g. 1 ms? I am assuming that QTimer timeouts are queued internally... is there some overflow?
    Sorry for my language, I am not sure how to express myself properly :/

    Thanks for helping me out , I really appreciate it... I am really desperate at this point :)

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    wrote on last edited by JonB
    #11

    @Svirac

    Also question: what is happening if called slot doesn't manage to preform task (function) within e.g. 1 ms? I am assuming that QTimer timeouts are queued internally... is there some overflow?

    Depends whether your slot does or does not allow the event loop to run. Regardless I don't think they'll be queued.

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    • JonBJ JonB

      @Svirac

      Also question: what is happening if called slot doesn't manage to preform task (function) within e.g. 1 ms? I am assuming that QTimer timeouts are queued internally... is there some overflow?

      Depends whether your slot does or does not allow the event loop to run. Regardless I don't think they'll be queued.

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      Svirac
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      #12

      @JonB
      I am thinking to generate some slower "guard" timer in separate thread.

      To each thread fast timers I will add counter, locked with mutex. Guard timer will check counter and reset it each time. If counter is 0, it means that fast thread didn't accumulate it.... then guard timer will reset fast timer. Of course, over appropriate slot. My understanding is that its enough so simply start timer (it stops and reset).

      Does it make sense?

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      • JonBJ JonB

        @Svirac

        Also question: what is happening if called slot doesn't manage to preform task (function) within e.g. 1 ms? I am assuming that QTimer timeouts are queued internally... is there some overflow?

        Depends whether your slot does or does not allow the event loop to run. Regardless I don't think they'll be queued.

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        Svirac
        wrote on last edited by Svirac
        #13

        @JonB
        For a last 1.5 hours I am running application with 5ms and 20ms timeouts and everything works fine....
        with 1ms and 2 ms one of timers stops responding (one always remains active).

        EDIT: just as I wrote this, after 1.5 hours one of faster timers (5ms) stop responding :(

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        • S Svirac

          @JonB
          For a last 1.5 hours I am running application with 5ms and 20ms timeouts and everything works fine....
          with 1ms and 2 ms one of timers stops responding (one always remains active).

          EDIT: just as I wrote this, after 1.5 hours one of faster timers (5ms) stop responding :(

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          CP71
          wrote on last edited by
          #14

          @Svirac
          I can say in our projects we have timers, some always active, some stopped in timeout slot and restart whet timeout slot is ended.
          Our softwares run for a day or more, and so far we haven’t problems with QTimer.
          Some problems with QElapsedTimer and sleep of thread, but not with QTimer, but happen in a particular condition and now we have learned to manage them, see https://forum.qt.io/topic/99973/qthread-msleep-doesn-t-work-when-system-time-is-changed

          We have found a particular issue, but I didn't report because I want to check our code before to do this, we found that QTimer seems to stop run when a QMessageBox is shown, but is not always true this condition, so we must investigate why? Sometimes seems QMessageBox stops the even loop but I don’t know why, But at the moment for us is not a big problem and we can manage this condition.

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            @CP71

            Are you calling exec ? If so, it will spin it's own event loop which will handle the events while running. Use open in place so the main loop will be used.

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            • SGaistS SGaist

              @CP71

              Are you calling exec ? If so, it will spin it's own event loop which will handle the events while running. Use open in place so the main loop will be used.

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              CP71
              wrote on last edited by
              #16

              @SGaist
              thank you very much for your suggestion.
              As soon as possible I’ll check and give you a confirm if I have used an open (in the hope I won’t forget to give you a confirm ;) ).
              For the moment, thanks.
              CP71

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              • SGaistS SGaist

                @CP71

                Are you calling exec ? If so, it will spin it's own event loop which will handle the events while running. Use open in place so the main loop will be used.

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                CP71
                wrote on last edited by CP71
                #17

                Hi @SGaist ,
                better late than never ;).
                Anyway sorry for late.
                I don’t call exec to open my QmessageBox, I used a static method QMessageBox::warning( this , …) but I don’t know if it calls exec method.
                This, in option, is QMainWindow where timer is run, timeout signals isn’t fired, or so it seems.
                When QMessageBox is closed QTimer run again.

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                • CP71C CP71

                  Hi @SGaist ,
                  better late than never ;).
                  Anyway sorry for late.
                  I don’t call exec to open my QmessageBox, I used a static method QMessageBox::warning( this , …) but I don’t know if it calls exec method.
                  This, in option, is QMainWindow where timer is run, timeout signals isn’t fired, or so it seems.
                  When QMessageBox is closed QTimer run again.

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                  JonB
                  wrote on last edited by JonB
                  #18

                  @CP71
                  3 months later :)

                  OK, your QMessageBox::warning() is an application-modal dialog and is behaving as though you had called the exec() which @SGaist mentioned.

                  And that is going to block the loop your timer runs under. You will need to rewrite your code to use the QMessageBox::open() call @SGaist referred you to.

                  For discussion see e.g. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/14676085/qmessagebox-halts-qtimer .

                  If this is an issue for you --- you always want some timer event firing in the background, but you have many modal dialogs to show and don't want to rewrite callers --- you might have to rethink your usage of QTimer.

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                  • S Svirac

                    Hi guys,

                    I am counting on your help, as usually… this time I am stuck :/

                    It seems that I am having issues with QTimer.
                    In general my application is consisted of several threads, threading is done with moveToThread() (I followed recommendations etc.).

                    Inside each thread, I am using QTimer to generate ticks. In general, once when thread is started, I am allocating Timer, define connections (timeout to listen) and then start the timer.

                    I double-checked threadIDs in each step, and it seems that threads work as expected.

                    Here is the problem:
                    Test is done with 2 threads (there is also main/gui thread).
                    After few minutes, for some one of timers stops generating timeouts (actually, appropriate slot is not called anymore).
                    Sometimes after 10 minutes timer become “alive” again and start to work as expected.

                    I did some experimenting, and instead QTimer I am generating ticks on following way:
                    timer_tick_id = startTimer(5);

                    and adding handler:
                    void Comm1Controller::timerEvent(QTimerEvent* event) {
                    if (event->timerId() == timer_tick_id) {
                    ..
                    }

                    For same timings this solution works “better”, it worked around 30 minutes and after that one of timers stopped to respond.

                    I am working on Win7, qt 4.6.2.

                    Please give me advices/thoughts…
                    Eventually I will drop from 1,2 ms to 5 and 10 ms loops, but I need to understand the problem, to make sure that this will not in the future.

                    I got an impression that QTimer queue gets overrun…
                    Is there a way to force Qt to give priority to QTimers or something like that?

                    Thanks in advance for any help…

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                    wrote on last edited by
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                    @Svirac said in QTimer stop responding after some time:

                    I am working on Win7, qt 4.6.2.

                    ...

                    Eventually I will drop from 1,2 ms to 5 and 10 ms loops

                    Have you checked if your slots are actually getting called at the millisecond intervals that you specified? If I remember correctly, Qt 4 did not support precise timers on Windows -- timers were only accurate to 16 ms.

                    Also, may I ask why you're using Qt 4.6? Try to upgrade to Qt 4.8.7 at least. But since this is sounds like a new project, I really really recommend Qt 5.12.4 (long-term support version) or Qt 5.13.0 (latest version)

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                    • JonBJ JonB

                      @CP71
                      3 months later :)

                      OK, your QMessageBox::warning() is an application-modal dialog and is behaving as though you had called the exec() which @SGaist mentioned.

                      And that is going to block the loop your timer runs under. You will need to rewrite your code to use the QMessageBox::open() call @SGaist referred you to.

                      For discussion see e.g. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/14676085/qmessagebox-halts-qtimer .

                      If this is an issue for you --- you always want some timer event firing in the background, but you have many modal dialogs to show and don't want to rewrite callers --- you might have to rethink your usage of QTimer.

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                      CP71
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #20

                      @JonB
                      Yeah, it is really long time :D
                      Thanks for your answer, no problem to use QmessageBox::open(), but the important thing is knowing why, and now thank to you and @Sgaist I know.
                      Thank you very much

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